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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 3820394" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Why would it matter, firstly, if we're talking about a massive damage effect that would do the same thing as a save or die? Secondly, there are lots of excessive damaging spells (Horrid Wilting is one) that are unaffected by energy resistance. Third, If you're assuming energy resistance, there also exist spells such as Spell Immunity, Superior Resistance, etc. that would take the counterpart to Energy Resistance where save-or-die spells are concerned, which IMO means that neither would apply to the discussion. (That Banshee-Wailin' Lich above would be put paid to with a single Superior Resistance spell, granting a +6 save bonus for the Wizard in question. You could get into anti-magics, dispells, etc. But it muddies the waters of "save-or-die vs. lotsa damage" duscussions.)</p></blockquote><p></p>