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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3838712" data-attributes="member: 18280">Hey, I agree with you that this DM is the most important one the hobby has.&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> However, I disagree with you abuot the problem.&nbsp; The problem is not simply the bodak design or the lack of material in the core books that make you unable to determine whether or not a bodak should be treated just like any other CR 8 undead.&nbsp; The problem is that the game designers both included one, and did not include the other.There is nothing wrong with including special monsters; there is something wrong with including special monsters and not indicating that you have done so, or which ones they are.&nbsp; As Geryon Raveneye noted, by striping the 1e context from the creature, the 3e design team did that DM a disservice.&nbsp; From my understanding, this is something that the 4e design team is trying to address with &quot;monster roles&quot;.Someone who doesn't know how to use a jigsaw can hurt himself while doing so.&nbsp; The fault isn't necessarily in the jigsaw, or even necessarily in the user.&nbsp; The problem lies in handing someone a jigsaw without instructions for its use.IMHO, of course.RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3838712, member: 18280"] Hey, I agree with you that this DM is the most important one the hobby has. :D However, I disagree with you abuot the problem. The problem is not simply the bodak design or the lack of material in the core books that make you unable to determine whether or not a bodak should be treated just like any other CR 8 undead. The problem is that the game designers both included one, and did not include the other. There is nothing wrong with including special monsters; there is something wrong with including special monsters and not indicating that you have done so, or which ones they are. As Geryon Raveneye noted, by striping the 1e context from the creature, the 3e design team did that DM a disservice. From my understanding, this is something that the 4e design team is trying to address with "monster roles". Someone who doesn't know how to use a jigsaw can hurt himself while doing so. The fault isn't necessarily in the jigsaw, or even necessarily in the user. The problem lies in handing someone a jigsaw without instructions for its use. IMHO, of course. RC [/QUOTE]

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