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<blockquote data-quote="Matthan" data-source="post: 7253364" data-attributes="member: 20005"><p>I DM for a group that I pulled together near the beginning of 5E. We're all adults so we don't get to play as often as we'd like, but we still enjoy it. Of the group, only myself and my good friend had played any D&D before. The four other players were completely new to D&D and to tabletop rpgs altogether (they had played WoW for years though).</p><p></p><p>I have a wide open policy of allowing just about anything as long as you run it past me and I approve it. If it becomes an issue, we revisit it. Only one of the new players has taken me up on that. He got bit by the bug hard. He reads all the UA, follows reddit, and checks out forums. He's even itching to DM himself. The others are just fine with their core characters. I get the new option books as they are released and make them available. They just don't see the need.</p><p></p><p>I think there are different kinds of players and 5E is built to be very accommodating to many kinds of players. There are some players who will buy the PHB and be perfectly content playing with it for the life of the game. They'll never look at feats or even consider multiclassing. They're playing a Paladin (or wizard or whatever), and that's their character. There are others who engage with the game on a different level. They are reading the books and constantly dreaming up new characters or possibilities. They're the ones who want the options available (even though they may not use them).</p><p></p><p>In your case, I think when you advertise for players that you are most likely to get responses from the crowd that is very deeply engaged with the game. Now that probably depends on where you're advertising. I'm assuming that you were advertising at a local game store. Most of my players will never go to a local game store. They have the book they need and don't feel like they need anything else. It's the ones who are engaged and want to look at new material that go to the game store. </p><p></p><p>I don't think 5E has the level of complexity of PF. I don't think we'll ever see official 5E have the level of complexity that PF has. That doesn't mean that players and DMs won't have differing preferences for the game. I know I would be fine with the restrictions that you lay out if I was able to play as long as the game was fun. When it was my turn to DM for the group, I'd probably open up the options a bit more and then be fine going back to your rules when my turn ended. I think you just need to find the right players for your table, and the right players for your table may not be where you expect them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matthan, post: 7253364, member: 20005"] I DM for a group that I pulled together near the beginning of 5E. We're all adults so we don't get to play as often as we'd like, but we still enjoy it. Of the group, only myself and my good friend had played any D&D before. The four other players were completely new to D&D and to tabletop rpgs altogether (they had played WoW for years though). I have a wide open policy of allowing just about anything as long as you run it past me and I approve it. If it becomes an issue, we revisit it. Only one of the new players has taken me up on that. He got bit by the bug hard. He reads all the UA, follows reddit, and checks out forums. He's even itching to DM himself. The others are just fine with their core characters. I get the new option books as they are released and make them available. They just don't see the need. I think there are different kinds of players and 5E is built to be very accommodating to many kinds of players. There are some players who will buy the PHB and be perfectly content playing with it for the life of the game. They'll never look at feats or even consider multiclassing. They're playing a Paladin (or wizard or whatever), and that's their character. There are others who engage with the game on a different level. They are reading the books and constantly dreaming up new characters or possibilities. They're the ones who want the options available (even though they may not use them). In your case, I think when you advertise for players that you are most likely to get responses from the crowd that is very deeply engaged with the game. Now that probably depends on where you're advertising. I'm assuming that you were advertising at a local game store. Most of my players will never go to a local game store. They have the book they need and don't feel like they need anything else. It's the ones who are engaged and want to look at new material that go to the game store. I don't think 5E has the level of complexity of PF. I don't think we'll ever see official 5E have the level of complexity that PF has. That doesn't mean that players and DMs won't have differing preferences for the game. I know I would be fine with the restrictions that you lay out if I was able to play as long as the game was fun. When it was my turn to DM for the group, I'd probably open up the options a bit more and then be fine going back to your rules when my turn ended. I think you just need to find the right players for your table, and the right players for your table may not be where you expect them. [/QUOTE]
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