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<blockquote data-quote="Essafah" data-source="post: 7954651" data-attributes="member: 16472"><p>I see what you are saying and for the most part I agree with you.&nbsp; I don't think 2E actually brought heroic larger than life characters to life though.&nbsp; The default rules had players rolling 3d6 as is for their stats putting them squarely in the average joe who decided to stop plowing and go fight style.&nbsp; It was a step down from 1E that had 4d6 as the baseline for stat rolling in the DMG.&nbsp; Then you are right 3E and 4E cranked things up exponentially.&nbsp; 5E has come along and carried the torch though toning it down just a bit (ie. hour long &quot;short&quot; rest) I suspect to appeal to the highly vocal OSR fans.&nbsp; I just disagree with those gamers who feel 5E needs to be powered down any further.&nbsp; I am not knocking their style of play but I disagree it should be the default plus as mentioned for those who truly crave that there are OSR replica games out there as well as new games like Warhammer Fantasy 4E which is a solid system that accurately captures gritty more realistic combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Essafah, post: 7954651, member: 16472"] I see what you are saying and for the most part I agree with you. I don't think 2E actually brought heroic larger than life characters to life though. The default rules had players rolling 3d6 as is for their stats putting them squarely in the average joe who decided to stop plowing and go fight style. It was a step down from 1E that had 4d6 as the baseline for stat rolling in the DMG. Then you are right 3E and 4E cranked things up exponentially. 5E has come along and carried the torch though toning it down just a bit (ie. hour long "short" rest) I suspect to appeal to the highly vocal OSR fans. I just disagree with those gamers who feel 5E needs to be powered down any further. I am not knocking their style of play but I disagree it should be the default plus as mentioned for those who truly crave that there are OSR replica games out there as well as new games like Warhammer Fantasy 4E which is a solid system that accurately captures gritty more realistic combat. [/QUOTE]

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