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<blockquote data-quote="Essafah" data-source="post: 7954654" data-attributes="member: 16472"><p>Yes Conan was afraid of magic because he was a barbarian from a primitive culture but he was clearly far beyond the normal human in terms of ability.&nbsp; He could move columns with his muscle and do other feats in the original Robert E. Howard stories.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then you have other characters of speculative fiction around that time such as John Carter of Mars who was a veritable superman on Mars.&nbsp;&nbsp; Elric while weak physically became uber powerful with this sword and his intellectual abilities FAR exceeded those around both humans and Melniboneans.&nbsp; &nbsp; None of these characters despite their social circumstances (high or low) were average&nbsp; joes going to adventure.&nbsp; &nbsp; What some people namely the OSR want is for people to be Joe average farmer with a beergut, average scullery maid, etc who just decided one day to adventure.&nbsp; &nbsp; 5E much like 4E adn 3E (it exists in a pC power space between the two) is more aligned with old school fantasy where yes PCs may start out as peasants and street urchins or kings or whatever but regardless their natural abilities and innate skills mark them as beyond the pale and destined for fame/infamy, and I like the design philosophy.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Essafah, post: 7954654, member: 16472"] Yes Conan was afraid of magic because he was a barbarian from a primitive culture but he was clearly far beyond the normal human in terms of ability. He could move columns with his muscle and do other feats in the original Robert E. Howard stories. Then you have other characters of speculative fiction around that time such as John Carter of Mars who was a veritable superman on Mars. Elric while weak physically became uber powerful with this sword and his intellectual abilities FAR exceeded those around both humans and Melniboneans. None of these characters despite their social circumstances (high or low) were average joes going to adventure. What some people namely the OSR want is for people to be Joe average farmer with a beergut, average scullery maid, etc who just decided one day to adventure. 5E much like 4E adn 3E (it exists in a pC power space between the two) is more aligned with old school fantasy where yes PCs may start out as peasants and street urchins or kings or whatever but regardless their natural abilities and innate skills mark them as beyond the pale and destined for fame/infamy, and I like the design philosophy. [/QUOTE]

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