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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sadras" data-source="post: 7954890" data-attributes="member: 6688277">Ok fair enough I can see how some may use this to hammer the edition the same way we had D&D and AD&D.When I classify 5e as easy mode it unequivically is not there to bash the edition.I'm looking at success rates of characters (which this thread originally focussed on), PC abilities/power, deadliness, learning the rules and even DMing - in comparison to other editions.I'm not looking to evaluate fun or popularity of the game.Raw 5e I firmly believe begins PURPOSEFULLY from an easy base. If you do not believe me then attempt to answer this honestly. Why were feats optional?Think of 5e as D&D (BECMI) with the ability to make it Advanced D&D = complex, more nuanced, more lethal and more tactical (somewhat).</blockquote>