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<blockquote data-quote="Monayuris" data-source="post: 7956496" data-attributes="member: 6859536">You personally don't think that is fun. Stop telling me that the games that I have fun playing aren't fun. Why is story important? Is playing D&amp;D about telling a story or about having adventures? I don't want the outcome prewritten. It is hard to explain but as a DM I don't care what happens. I don't have a story to tell. I don't have any influence. I just present a world and adjudicate it fairly. I will do no less as a DM and I expect no less as a player.I don't understand this criticism. What in the world are you talking about? What does Danny Devito have to do with anything? Explain your argument more clearly.Wrong. If you look at old school games as an adult in the modern time, you see a different style of D&amp;D. Maybe you don't understand it, but it is just as valid as any game you play now. Maybe the rules introduced in B/X are just fine and create a very interesting and intense gameplay. A style of gameplay that can't be achieved with modern D&amp;D but a valid and engaging gameplay nonetheless.D&amp;D old school works fine for me, thank you. No need for me to go to other games. 5E is fun but it is not always the best option for certain campaigns. You use the tool that best fits your need. If you want high fantasy adventure, 5E is a good choice. If you want a more mortal centric low powered game OSR is the better choice.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Monayuris, post: 7956496, member: 6859536"] You personally don't think that is fun. Stop telling me that the games that I have fun playing aren't fun. Why is story important? Is playing D&D about telling a story or about having adventures? I don't want the outcome prewritten. It is hard to explain but as a DM I don't care what happens. I don't have a story to tell. I don't have any influence. I just present a world and adjudicate it fairly. I will do no less as a DM and I expect no less as a player. I don't understand this criticism. What in the world are you talking about? What does Danny Devito have to do with anything? Explain your argument more clearly. Wrong. If you look at old school games as an adult in the modern time, you see a different style of D&D. Maybe you don't understand it, but it is just as valid as any game you play now. Maybe the rules introduced in B/X are just fine and create a very interesting and intense gameplay. A style of gameplay that can't be achieved with modern D&D but a valid and engaging gameplay nonetheless. D&D old school works fine for me, thank you. No need for me to go to other games. 5E is fun but it is not always the best option for certain campaigns. You use the tool that best fits your need. If you want high fantasy adventure, 5E is a good choice. If you want a more mortal centric low powered game OSR is the better choice. [/QUOTE]

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