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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7957507" data-attributes="member: 2525">I might also be good but not to your taste such that you're having a hard time seeing it in a way others see it and looking for reasons other than saying that a majority do find it good.I don't think the right place right time arguments hold up well. It was selling extremely well before the streaming started to become popular. It sold extremely well even when competition wasn't selling very well but had previously sold well. It sold extremely well with new people who had never even seen some of the streaming and other &quot;right time&quot; elements in the industry. It's holding and increasing sales well even with those who previously liked other editions of the game. All of the indications which would tend to show it's as objectively &quot;good&quot; a game as you might measure with the tools available are indicating it is rating as &quot;good&quot; by those indications. Which doesn't mean you have to like it. But it might mean you should consider if maybe popular in this case is also good according to a very large number of people. Unless you think a whole lot of people are just not able to fairly form their own opinions about the game or are just fibbing to others or themselves when they say they think it's really good?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7957507, member: 2525"] I might also be good but not to your taste such that you're having a hard time seeing it in a way others see it and looking for reasons other than saying that a majority do find it good. I don't think the right place right time arguments hold up well. It was selling extremely well before the streaming started to become popular. It sold extremely well even when competition wasn't selling very well but had previously sold well. It sold extremely well with new people who had never even seen some of the streaming and other "right time" elements in the industry. It's holding and increasing sales well even with those who previously liked other editions of the game. All of the indications which would tend to show it's as objectively "good" a game as you might measure with the tools available are indicating it is rating as "good" by those indications. Which doesn't mean you have to like it. But it might mean you should consider if maybe popular in this case is also good according to a very large number of people. Unless you think a whole lot of people are just not able to fairly form their own opinions about the game or are just fibbing to others or themselves when they say they think it's really good? [/QUOTE]

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