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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7957682" data-attributes="member: 2525">Well yes, it is. When you say, &quot;I am of the bear folk, and i feel kicked out by the tiger folk&quot; that is saying you're coming at it from a tribal perspective. So when you said &quot;I am of the 4e folk, and i feel kicked out by the 5e folk&quot; that's pretty darn tribal. Again, are you really saying it's just everyone else being tribal except you?1) Not one person here said the game is perfect; 2) not one person said that they don't like you for wanting something different or more; 3) not one person told you to shut up.See, that's what I mean by a tribalistic perspective. When you think of it in tribes, you automatically default to extremes about &quot;the other side&quot;. You read everything they say and do in the worst possible perspective because it's &quot;not your people&quot; or &quot;you're not their people&quot;.Nobody is victimizing you for liking things different than what you like. Stop claiming they are.4e was a fine game. There are lots of people working to make third party rules to make 5e play more like the things you liked about 4e. Focusing on those would be a heck of a lot more positive than claiming everyone is picking on you for not liking what you like.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7957682, member: 2525"] Well yes, it is. When you say, "I am of the bear folk, and i feel kicked out by the tiger folk" that is saying you're coming at it from a tribal perspective. So when you said "I am of the 4e folk, and i feel kicked out by the 5e folk" that's pretty darn tribal. Again, are you really saying it's just everyone else being tribal except you? 1) Not one person here said the game is perfect; 2) not one person said that they don't like you for wanting something different or more; 3) not one person told you to shut up. See, that's what I mean by a tribalistic perspective. When you think of it in tribes, you automatically default to extremes about "the other side". You read everything they say and do in the worst possible perspective because it's "not your people" or "you're not their people". Nobody is victimizing you for liking things different than what you like. Stop claiming they are. 4e was a fine game. There are lots of people working to make third party rules to make 5e play more like the things you liked about 4e. Focusing on those would be a heck of a lot more positive than claiming everyone is picking on you for not liking what you like. [/QUOTE]

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