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<blockquote data-quote="Rocksome" data-source="post: 6621170" data-attributes="member: 6779629"><p>I don't have a problem with them because they're fun. I don't necessarily run every fight to try and break the PCs, I run combat encounters to let them show off their mad skills. Attrition is a much bigger issue in 5e than in previous editions, a series of small encounters where the PCs use their big guns helps reduce the swinginess of Save or Die fights, since the powers are always limited use. If you're running a "3 fights and a skill challenge" campaign then Save or Die spells will cause some problems. Don't forget also that in 5e low-level monsters can still represent a serious threat to PCs en masse. Our 10th level barbarian was nearly laid low by a large group of Dragon Claws and Dragon Wings in Rise of Tiamat just the other night. Save or Die spells are far less effective in these situations (Area of Effect Spells become better however) as they normally limit the number of targets and there is no single big bad to focus fire on.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rocksome, post: 6621170, member: 6779629"] I don't have a problem with them because they're fun. I don't necessarily run every fight to try and break the PCs, I run combat encounters to let them show off their mad skills. Attrition is a much bigger issue in 5e than in previous editions, a series of small encounters where the PCs use their big guns helps reduce the swinginess of Save or Die fights, since the powers are always limited use. If you're running a "3 fights and a skill challenge" campaign then Save or Die spells will cause some problems. Don't forget also that in 5e low-level monsters can still represent a serious threat to PCs en masse. Our 10th level barbarian was nearly laid low by a large group of Dragon Claws and Dragon Wings in Rise of Tiamat just the other night. Save or Die spells are far less effective in these situations (Area of Effect Spells become better however) as they normally limit the number of targets and there is no single big bad to focus fire on. [/QUOTE]
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