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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7925207" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>Or even ask "well.. gee mister mayor we really want to work for you, but it seems like five guys in platemail are an odd choice to clear out the rustmonster nest in your iron mine..."</p><p></p><p>Heck even "we can take care of your cursed artifact... but your gonna need to put down a bunch up front so we can buy some<a href="https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ghost_Touch_(Armor_Enhancement)" target="_blank"> ghost touch armor</a> * & some <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/restorationGreater.htm" target="_blank">potions</a>. Luckily as the king I bet you've been planning this for a while & have some guys who can just make it if they didn't already your majesty"</p><p>Yes hose wraiths will put the fear of god in certain builds, but those same builds are going to shrug off the skeleton archers & whatnot putting the feat of god in other builds.</p><p></p><p>* Yes you could find/buy/make ghost touch armor, but as a +3 enhancement bonus you probably didn't have +3 ghost touch platemail & +3 ghost touch (tower)shield for an ac of nat20 or not my problem so then some stuff pretty far south of things like lich mu</p><p></p><p>There is a difference between everyone needing to carry eight different weapons and everyone ignoring all aspects of a weapon but "does it use the right stat", "is it a desirable die size" & "is it magic". I mentioned ASF, ACP, crit range, crit mod, & so on because they were important dials a GM could use wen creating an interesting laterally improved weapon. Lower crit mod but higher +/magic effect like +1d6 lightning/temp hp... Lower better AC but higher ACP hmmm... that's tempting lets all hem & haw the pros & cons of those lateral shifts. Now in 5e " no blacksmith... I already got +1 dagger, don't need another even if it does electric instead of magic pierce damage, you got it in short sword(d6) or rapier(d8), What about with an effect that makes me better at what I already do." Even damage types like bludgeon/pierce/slash are irrelevant once they become magic in any form. It leads to excessive power inflation.</p><p></p><p>Back in 3.5 they realized that having <em>"a sword, a cold iron sword for fey, a red steel sword for aberrations, an iron wood sword for rust monsters, a true ice sword for fire elementals, a silver sword for demons, a..."</em> was too many specific niches when they made eberron when they made byeshek (aberrations) & Flametouched iron (sort of a general treated as good aligned) to cover most everything that needs more than the right physical damage type like zombies slash) & skeletons(bludgeoning) or +# weapons. maybe celestials or something need some special type, but if your battling angels you are pretty out there in <em>most</em> settings.... however those were not in FR in 3.5& silver was so so only silver & magic was considered when making the mm & phb.</p><p></p><p>Although... your <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/elemental.htm" target="_blank">fire elemental though doesn't need anything</a> for dr / - ;D</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7925207, member: 93670"] Or even ask "well.. gee mister mayor we really want to work for you, but it seems like five guys in platemail are an odd choice to clear out the rustmonster nest in your iron mine..." Heck even "we can take care of your cursed artifact... but your gonna need to put down a bunch up front so we can buy some[URL='https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Ghost_Touch_(Armor_Enhancement)'] ghost touch armor[/URL] * & some [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/restorationGreater.htm']potions[/URL]. Luckily as the king I bet you've been planning this for a while & have some guys who can just make it if they didn't already your majesty" Yes hose wraiths will put the fear of god in certain builds, but those same builds are going to shrug off the skeleton archers & whatnot putting the feat of god in other builds. * Yes you could find/buy/make ghost touch armor, but as a +3 enhancement bonus you probably didn't have +3 ghost touch platemail & +3 ghost touch (tower)shield for an ac of nat20 or not my problem so then some stuff pretty far south of things like lich mu There is a difference between everyone needing to carry eight different weapons and everyone ignoring all aspects of a weapon but "does it use the right stat", "is it a desirable die size" & "is it magic". I mentioned ASF, ACP, crit range, crit mod, & so on because they were important dials a GM could use wen creating an interesting laterally improved weapon. Lower crit mod but higher +/magic effect like +1d6 lightning/temp hp... Lower better AC but higher ACP hmmm... that's tempting lets all hem & haw the pros & cons of those lateral shifts. Now in 5e " no blacksmith... I already got +1 dagger, don't need another even if it does electric instead of magic pierce damage, you got it in short sword(d6) or rapier(d8), What about with an effect that makes me better at what I already do." Even damage types like bludgeon/pierce/slash are irrelevant once they become magic in any form. It leads to excessive power inflation. Back in 3.5 they realized that having [I]"a sword, a cold iron sword for fey, a red steel sword for aberrations, an iron wood sword for rust monsters, a true ice sword for fire elementals, a silver sword for demons, a..."[/I] was too many specific niches when they made eberron when they made byeshek (aberrations) & Flametouched iron (sort of a general treated as good aligned) to cover most everything that needs more than the right physical damage type like zombies slash) & skeletons(bludgeoning) or +# weapons. maybe celestials or something need some special type, but if your battling angels you are pretty out there in [I]most[/I] settings.... however those were not in FR in 3.5& silver was so so only silver & magic was considered when making the mm & phb. Although... your [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/elemental.htm']fire elemental though doesn't need anything[/URL] for dr / - ;D [/QUOTE]
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