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Is 5e the Least-Challenging Edition of D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 7925488" data-attributes="member: 6987520"><p>Well, we simply disagree.</p><p></p><p>You have no idea how our players play, what our characters are like, or anything g else. If your experience differs, fine, but I stand by my statement that 5E is the easiest and least deadly D&D (disregarding 4th, which I never played) IME, especially when using the guidelines in the DMG. Others have agreed 5E is the least-challenging in the aspect of survival (especially past tier I), so I am hardly alone in that assessment.</p><p></p><p>To give you an example, our party of 5 10-12th level characters, had these encounters in our session yesterday:</p><p></p><p>2 Frost Giants (DIFFICULT)</p><p>1 Frost Giant (EASY)</p><p>2 Young Adult White Dragons (EASY)</p><p>1 Frost Giant (EASY)</p><p>1 Cloud Giant, 1 Oni, 4 Ogres (DEADLY)</p><p>8 Ogres (MODERATE)</p><p>3 Frost Giants (DEADLY)</p><p>2 Fire Giants, 4 Ogres (DIFFICULT)</p><p></p><p>SHORT REST</p><p></p><p>1 Drow Wizard, 1 Drow Elite Warrior (EASY)</p><p>2 Cloud Giants, 2 Winter Wolves (DEADLY)</p><p>3 Frost Giants (DEADLY)</p><p></p><p>LONG REST (end of session)</p><p></p><p>In summary: 4 EASY, 1 MODERATE, 2 DIFFICULT, 4 DEADLY. If you do any XP tally we earned a bit more than what the calculated 4 moderate + 4 difficult (max of the 6-8 recommended) would give.</p><p></p><p>While the deadly encounters most certainly had their exciting moments and a couple characters dropped to 0 HP in different fights, we were able to finish the battles and no one died, despite 4 "deadly" encounters before we got a long rest. In other words, the game played pretty much as designed IMO and I would day we had a lot of fun and excitement. Was I ever really concerned when those character went unconscious? Nope, be we had the upper hand at those points and saving them was easy enough. Now, if you play with a hard-ass DM who has monsters target fallen characters (which ours <em>does</em> at times depending on the monster and encounter), <em>THAT</em> makes the game more challenging. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 7925488, member: 6987520"] Well, we simply disagree. You have no idea how our players play, what our characters are like, or anything g else. If your experience differs, fine, but I stand by my statement that 5E is the easiest and least deadly D&D (disregarding 4th, which I never played) IME, especially when using the guidelines in the DMG. Others have agreed 5E is the least-challenging in the aspect of survival (especially past tier I), so I am hardly alone in that assessment. To give you an example, our party of 5 10-12th level characters, had these encounters in our session yesterday: 2 Frost Giants (DIFFICULT) 1 Frost Giant (EASY) 2 Young Adult White Dragons (EASY) 1 Frost Giant (EASY) 1 Cloud Giant, 1 Oni, 4 Ogres (DEADLY) 8 Ogres (MODERATE) 3 Frost Giants (DEADLY) 2 Fire Giants, 4 Ogres (DIFFICULT) SHORT REST 1 Drow Wizard, 1 Drow Elite Warrior (EASY) 2 Cloud Giants, 2 Winter Wolves (DEADLY) 3 Frost Giants (DEADLY) LONG REST (end of session) In summary: 4 EASY, 1 MODERATE, 2 DIFFICULT, 4 DEADLY. If you do any XP tally we earned a bit more than what the calculated 4 moderate + 4 difficult (max of the 6-8 recommended) would give. While the deadly encounters most certainly had their exciting moments and a couple characters dropped to 0 HP in different fights, we were able to finish the battles and no one died, despite 4 "deadly" encounters before we got a long rest. In other words, the game played pretty much as designed IMO and I would day we had a lot of fun and excitement. Was I ever really concerned when those character went unconscious? Nope, be we had the upper hand at those points and saving them was easy enough. Now, if you play with a hard-ass DM who has monsters target fallen characters (which ours [I]does[/I] at times depending on the monster and encounter), [I]THAT[/I] makes the game more challenging. ;) [/QUOTE]
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