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Is 5e the Least-Challenging Edition of D&D?
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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7926187" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>no... neither does history.</p><p></p><p>I've also personally caused a compound fracture in a mugger with <a href="https://www.coldsteel.com/african-walking-stick.html" target="_blank">this</a> model walking stick.</p><p></p><p>A rapier is a piercing weapon designed to puncture muscle & vital organs, a skeleton has none of those in a traditional sense but if you poke the bones or use it like a club it will still do <em>some </em>damage.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That gets into another problem of 5e trying to balance around some mythical no feat no MC no magic item game while still presenting a huge chunk of the PHB & dmg around those things instead of extensive mundane equipment lists like you'd see in the old d20 modern/western/etc books like you see in starfinder(~8.5 pages of <em>just</em> the equipment <u>tables</u> for the equipment described in the remaining 50 or so pages in "chapter 7 equipment") you might have a point.. but those types of games are the extreme minority at best & the core 5e books do not have that sort of equipment selection needed to support games like that without resorting to magic items.</p><p>Here are <em>just</em> the ranged weapons from d20 modern past[spoiler][ATTACH=full]118707[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118708[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118709[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118710[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118711[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118712[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]118713[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]118714[/ATTACH][/spoiler]</p><p>That's just the ranged weapons (ie not melee weapons not armors) from one single d20 supplement. All of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D20_Modern#Rulebooks" target="_blank">the modern books</a> tended to have extensive equipment lists like that. So no, just because it might be meaningful to some hypothetical GM who might exist that wants to run a game with no everything while prominently baking all that no feats/no magic/no mc/etc stuff into the rules.</p><p></p><p>5e <em><u><strong>can't</strong></u></em> have mundane equipment like that because they got rid of all the fiddly bits that contribute to subjective choices between laterally equivalent gear.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7926187, member: 93670"] no... neither does history. I've also personally caused a compound fracture in a mugger with [URL='https://www.coldsteel.com/african-walking-stick.html']this[/URL] model walking stick. A rapier is a piercing weapon designed to puncture muscle & vital organs, a skeleton has none of those in a traditional sense but if you poke the bones or use it like a club it will still do [I]some [/I]damage. That gets into another problem of 5e trying to balance around some mythical no feat no MC no magic item game while still presenting a huge chunk of the PHB & dmg around those things instead of extensive mundane equipment lists like you'd see in the old d20 modern/western/etc books like you see in starfinder(~8.5 pages of [I]just[/I] the equipment [U]tables[/U] for the equipment described in the remaining 50 or so pages in "chapter 7 equipment") you might have a point.. but those types of games are the extreme minority at best & the core 5e books do not have that sort of equipment selection needed to support games like that without resorting to magic items. Here are [I]just[/I] the ranged weapons from d20 modern past[spoiler][ATTACH type="full"]118707[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118708[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118709[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118710[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118711[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118712[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118713[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]118714[/ATTACH][/spoiler] That's just the ranged weapons (ie not melee weapons not armors) from one single d20 supplement. All of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D20_Modern#Rulebooks']the modern books[/URL] tended to have extensive equipment lists like that. So no, just because it might be meaningful to some hypothetical GM who might exist that wants to run a game with no everything while prominently baking all that no feats/no magic/no mc/etc stuff into the rules. 5e [I][U][B]can't[/B][/U][/I] have mundane equipment like that because they got rid of all the fiddly bits that contribute to subjective choices between laterally equivalent gear. [/QUOTE]
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