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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 7926775" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>May be I should clarify a bit. Too much available choice means that some DM <strong>WILL </strong>restrain the choices. Be it because they don't have the book, or it does not fit in their campaign setting. Unfortunately, there will always be a player that will insist on creating such and such character that they saw in a book (either in official or unofficial products). This can lead to unwanted and unnecessary arguments with the player in question. I have seen young DM getting crushed by argumentative players for not allowing a ninja (or whatever else comes to your mind) in a campaign where it was clearly a medieval fantasy (and don't bring the: "Anything is possible, just add a story to justify its presence" argument...)</p><p></p><p>Young DM have problems in justifying their restriction and might not see the imbalance that some classes might bring. I'm old enough and pig headed enough to stand my ground but young DM might not be so. I have seen my fair share of destroyed campaigns where the player brought a prestige class from the internet (where the unbalancing factors where not evident) to be wary of the amount of choices. Back in the days, I am pretty sure that almost none of the prestige classes beyond those in the DM were fully play tested. A lot of these were either garbage or simply too powerful. And I do own every single official books in 5ed (save the Rick & Morty thing... too childish for me). I have no problems in adjudicating the game and saying no to someone. But you also have to think about the young DM out there.</p><p></p><p>As I said earlier, with all the possibilities we have right now, we can do about any concept we can think of with a character that multiclass into two classes only! What we need is for Wizard to concentrate on new options (as we saw in the UA earlier this year, it was not perfect but it is a work in progress...) and to revise some rules that are not necessary up front. Just looking at the Sage Advice shows us that a lot of rules need clarifications or better wording, some monsters need a bit more tweaking to be perfect, some guidelines needs to be added into the DMG and so on. Maybe a 5.5ed is in order. For the moment, we do not need more path or classes. We need consistency in the rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 7926775, member: 6855114"] May be I should clarify a bit. Too much available choice means that some DM [B]WILL [/B]restrain the choices. Be it because they don't have the book, or it does not fit in their campaign setting. Unfortunately, there will always be a player that will insist on creating such and such character that they saw in a book (either in official or unofficial products). This can lead to unwanted and unnecessary arguments with the player in question. I have seen young DM getting crushed by argumentative players for not allowing a ninja (or whatever else comes to your mind) in a campaign where it was clearly a medieval fantasy (and don't bring the: "Anything is possible, just add a story to justify its presence" argument...) Young DM have problems in justifying their restriction and might not see the imbalance that some classes might bring. I'm old enough and pig headed enough to stand my ground but young DM might not be so. I have seen my fair share of destroyed campaigns where the player brought a prestige class from the internet (where the unbalancing factors where not evident) to be wary of the amount of choices. Back in the days, I am pretty sure that almost none of the prestige classes beyond those in the DM were fully play tested. A lot of these were either garbage or simply too powerful. And I do own every single official books in 5ed (save the Rick & Morty thing... too childish for me). I have no problems in adjudicating the game and saying no to someone. But you also have to think about the young DM out there. As I said earlier, with all the possibilities we have right now, we can do about any concept we can think of with a character that multiclass into two classes only! What we need is for Wizard to concentrate on new options (as we saw in the UA earlier this year, it was not perfect but it is a work in progress...) and to revise some rules that are not necessary up front. Just looking at the Sage Advice shows us that a lot of rules need clarifications or better wording, some monsters need a bit more tweaking to be perfect, some guidelines needs to be added into the DMG and so on. Maybe a 5.5ed is in order. For the moment, we do not need more path or classes. We need consistency in the rules. [/QUOTE]
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