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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7930838" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I would have had to have been there when the "waves" were happening to see what the DM was doing to make a determination. I nearly wiped a party with 6 Vampire Spawn. If [USER=32740]@Man in the Funny Hat[/USER] was referring two or three waves of 6 or 7 spawn, maybe that would be impressive but certainly not what you are claiming. And between auto-grapples, regeneration, and blood drinking I'd be shocked that the players survived that in any decent shape unless they had a major terrain advantage. If they went to six or seven waves of a dozen spawn plus a real Vampire, I'd have to wonder what the heck happened, since the Vampire has legendaries and I can't imagine any party surviving that without losing members, and most likely it would be a full retreat or a TPK. And frankly, I think you rather consistently underestimate just how many individuals would be in a location, since you seem to constantly think that we are stretching the bounds of reasonably numbers. The DMG lists that a large castle would have 200 skilled and 100 unskilled individuals to run it. It further says that the bulk of the skilled workers are soldiers and guards for the castle. So, a Vampire castle to run would need approximately 125 guards (more than half but not by much) then the vampire would have pets in the menagerie, any experiments, and then just the court and "favored lieutenants" who aren't actually neccessary for the daily running of the place and are just there. You can easily fight over 200 individuals taking on a full castle. And this makes sense, castles were huge and required a lot of manpower to run. They are essentially small towns in and of themselves. A ship has a crew of 20 with 20 passengers, so a pirate crew could easily by 30 individuals in a fight.This numbers aren't super inflated or way out there, they are actually decently reasonable estimates of the numbers of fighting men in a location.</blockquote>

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