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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 7932230" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Okay, so, Fighter loses 15 points of strength. The party has the following options.Wait 15 days.Cast lesser Resoration until 1d4 = 15. Average of 1d4 is 2.5, so about 7 spell slots. I doubt that one character has that many until high levels. So, still a few days or draining the entire party of 1st and 2nd level spells from the healers.Cast an expensive and high level spell the party probably doesn't have access to.So, the general point still stands. The party will either wait, use a ton of resources, or a new character will show up.Except, 3.5 had another little quirk of the system. They could instead buy dozens of wands of Lesser Restoration, so if they stocked up enough gold sink in healing items, they could restore the fighter within a few minutes.This still doesn't make me like maiming a party member. Either I have to give enough resources out as a Dungeon Master that they can afford to ignore the effect, or the party is pretty much on downtime until the effect goes away. Neither solution is interesting or challenging. And, if your counter is, "well the party will have to adventure anyways, they can't wait a week" that is the same argument that can be used for the effect lasting only a day too. They can't just stop and will have to continue on despite the effect. Making it equally impactful.Also, 5e does have a very few number of ability drain attacks, such as the Shadow's strength drain or the Intellect Devourer (which actually never naturally recovers and must be healed with magic). And, many people like that, because having to recalculate your scores and bonuses constantly because your ability scores keep yo-yoing is a pain in the neck. Also, considering Constitution only effects health and saves, the Wraith dropping Max Hp and dealing damage is not only mostly equivalent to 3.5 where it drained constitution. In fact, considering how much higher ability scores went, and the fact the wraith only dealt 1d4 damage with each attack, it might be more devastating in the initial fight, since it will drop characters faster.</blockquote>

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