Reply to thread

Message

<blockquote data-quote="Ratskinner" data-source="post: 7933644" data-attributes="member: 6688937">My players did not feel the same way about 5e, but then I generally ignored the given CR/encounter rules. I don't think they're very good, and they really didn't work well with our schedule. Even so, difficulty is still not the same as deadliness, because &quot;I kill everything&quot; isn't necessarily the solution to an adventure. Myself, I find the &quot;I said I was checking for traps!&quot; style of play more tedious than difficult.Again, though, that's your particular GM's whimsy. I've had many GMs over the years who would rule similar situations wildly differently. Just one example, I got into a group that regularly made it a point to obtain an auger (or similar tool) to drill holes in doors to improve their intelligence about the next room. It had apparently just never occurred to any of them how much noise would be created when drilling though a door. Similarly, I've had some GMs that really love over-the-top cinematic stuff and others who despise anything other than &quot;gritty realism&quot;. You get very different answers from them about what works and what doesn't, or how NPCs react, or even what NPCs are in the game.Because the early editions were so sorely lacking in mechanical structure in so many (non-combat) areas, a great deal was left up to the DM to adjudicate or create....i.e. whimsy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ratskinner, post: 7933644, member: 6688937"] My players did not feel the same way about 5e, but then I generally ignored the given CR/encounter rules. I don't think they're very good, and they really didn't work well with our schedule. Even so, difficulty is still not the same as deadliness, because "I kill everything" isn't necessarily the solution to an adventure. Myself, I find the "I said I was checking for traps!" style of play more tedious than difficult. Again, though, that's your particular GM's whimsy. I've had many GMs over the years who would rule similar situations wildly differently. Just one example, I got into a group that regularly made it a point to obtain an auger (or similar tool) to drill holes in doors to improve their intelligence about the next room. It had apparently just never occurred to any of them how much noise would be created when drilling though a door. Similarly, I've had some GMs that really love over-the-top cinematic stuff and others who despise anything other than "gritty realism". You get very different answers from them about what works and what doesn't, or how NPCs react, or even what NPCs are in the game. Because the early editions were so sorely lacking in mechanical structure in so many (non-combat) areas, a great deal was left up to the DM to adjudicate or create....i.e. whimsy. [/QUOTE]

Verification