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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 7934185" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>You just added weight to my claim that 5e is built saying that certain playstyles are badwrongfun. Adding to that is the fact that players tend to outnumber gm's by a significant degree with most tables having around 4-6 players <span style="font-size: 9px">(give or take)</span> per 1 gm. any survey is going to be largely people who mostly or only play and as a result will not consider things from a gm's perspective of why a wraith or something should blast through 30+ ac like wet tissue paper instead of harmlessly bouncing off like every other melee ranged & spell attack.</p><p></p><p>Simply saying add them back in ignores the fact that we aren't having this discussion because there was a second or variant version of things like the wraith, ghast/ghoul, trog, rustmonster, various scary oozes, etc that lose their scary bits or have their scary bit nullified if they are up against someone with a magic weapon/armor. We are having this discussion because not only were they replaced with defanged declawed versions but even dmg 280/281 <em>also </em>completely omits those kinds of scary effects. simply putting them back in fights against too many changes in the system & you quickly run into a snowballing slippery slope where you have so many house rules upon house rules that you are playing a different game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 7934185, member: 93670"] You just added weight to my claim that 5e is built saying that certain playstyles are badwrongfun. Adding to that is the fact that players tend to outnumber gm's by a significant degree with most tables having around 4-6 players [SIZE=1](give or take)[/SIZE] per 1 gm. any survey is going to be largely people who mostly or only play and as a result will not consider things from a gm's perspective of why a wraith or something should blast through 30+ ac like wet tissue paper instead of harmlessly bouncing off like every other melee ranged & spell attack. Simply saying add them back in ignores the fact that we aren't having this discussion because there was a second or variant version of things like the wraith, ghast/ghoul, trog, rustmonster, various scary oozes, etc that lose their scary bits or have their scary bit nullified if they are up against someone with a magic weapon/armor. We are having this discussion because not only were they replaced with defanged declawed versions but even dmg 280/281 [I]also [/I]completely omits those kinds of scary effects. simply putting them back in fights against too many changes in the system & you quickly run into a snowballing slippery slope where you have so many house rules upon house rules that you are playing a different game. [/QUOTE]
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