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<blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 7936183" data-attributes="member: 6750235">I play that way.&nbsp; You have statistics published somewhere to demonstrate almost nobody plays that way?&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> It's a basic premise that magic items are a bonus and not a requirement.&nbsp; [ATTACH=full]119246[/ATTACH]That's from XGtE.&nbsp; Current edition information is relevant.&nbsp; Past edition information not so much.&nbsp; 5e recommends not using those monsters if the party does not have the resources to deal with them or become more generous with magic items.&nbsp; There is no requirement to use any monster or provide magic.&quot;Have the right stuff&quot; is not a method that creates challenge.&nbsp; It's just have vs have not where have removes a restriction instead of there having been created any additional challenge.&nbsp; Restrictions are not challenges.DM's always have control over how challenging an encounter is.&nbsp; Step one is to understand the party and step two is to go beyond DMG guidelines and estimate what level of challenge any encounter the DM designs is going to be for the party.&nbsp; That's an art and not a formula.I am going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that given 5e's current popularity and the game premise that magic is not required that a lot of people play without magic being required.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ashrym, post: 7936183, member: 6750235"] I play that way. You have statistics published somewhere to demonstrate almost nobody plays that way? ;) It's a basic premise that magic items are a bonus and not a requirement. [ATTACH type="full"]119246[/ATTACH] That's from XGtE. Current edition information is relevant. Past edition information not so much. 5e recommends not using those monsters if the party does not have the resources to deal with them or become more generous with magic items. There is no requirement to use any monster or provide magic. "Have the right stuff" is not a method that creates challenge. It's just have vs have not where have removes a restriction instead of there having been created any additional challenge. Restrictions are not challenges. DM's always have control over how challenging an encounter is. Step one is to understand the party and step two is to go beyond DMG guidelines and estimate what level of challenge any encounter the DM designs is going to be for the party. That's an art and not a formula. I am going to go out on a limb and hypothesize that given 5e's current popularity and the game premise that magic is not required that a lot of people play without magic being required. ;) [/QUOTE]

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