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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 7954854" data-attributes="member: 6801845">In 3.5 I made a fighter that was far and beyond other PCs in capability with the exception of people that &quot;bent&quot; the rules*.&nbsp;&nbsp; At least until he could no longer keep up with the exponential power curve that casters had.I can certainly make PCs in 5E that are a bit above the curve if I want (especially for a specific niche) but I think the difference is far less than previous editions.As far as odds of success, that has always been and will always be in the hands of the DM.&nbsp; On the other hand it is easier for the DM to control the level of lethality than it was in older editions.&nbsp; It is more difficult to accidentally TPK a party - although I've come close in 5E as well.There's no rule that says you can't throw a dozen ancient red dragons at a level 1 party even though they have no hope of winning.&nbsp; If a DM can't challenge a group, that's on the DM not the system. *As in &quot;I've got this dragon-like-creature-that-is-definitely-not-a-fellbeast, you guys get that one&quot; and then killing mine a round quicker than it took 4 other PCs to kill theirs.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 7954854, member: 6801845"] In 3.5 I made a fighter that was far and beyond other PCs in capability with the exception of people that "bent" the rules*. At least until he could no longer keep up with the exponential power curve that casters had. I can certainly make PCs in 5E that are a bit above the curve if I want (especially for a specific niche) but I think the difference is far less than previous editions. As far as odds of success, that has always been and will always be in the hands of the DM. On the other hand it is [I]easier[/I] for the DM to control the level of lethality than it was in older editions. It is more difficult to accidentally TPK a party - although I've come close in 5E as well. There's no rule that says you [I]can't[/I] throw a dozen ancient red dragons at a level 1 party even though they have no hope of winning. If a DM can't challenge a group, that's on the DM not the system. [I]*As in "I've got this dragon-like-creature-that-is-definitely-not-a-fellbeast, you guys get that one" and then killing mine a round quicker than it took 4 other PCs to kill theirs.[/I] [/QUOTE]

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