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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kurotowa" data-source="post: 8302976" data-attributes="member: 27957">Counter take: If you need to put in effort to get a system to do X, it means X is not a default setting for the system. Enabling optional game components takes a little work precisely because they're less deeply integrated into the system. And the fact that detailed tactical combat isn't the default setting for 5e is absolutely a feature, not a bug.Lots of people don't enjoy complex tactical combat. Many of them are very bad at it. That's what sunk my group's one attempted 4e campaign. Like, the two wargamers were fine, but the rest of the group was overwhelmed and combats took forever and they weren't having any fun. You only have to look at the sales figures to see that the 4e design model is a very niche one. If you can get a whole group who are comfortable in that niche then they'll have an amazing time, but you're cutting out a lot of potential players if that's the only playstyle you offer.What 5e offers is a more simple and streamlined play experience, and if your group wants detailed tactical combat you can start enabling optional features. It's easier to do that than it is to take a 4e style system and try to disable the tactical combat features until you achieve the streamlined easy access version. And it's indisputable which approach has a larger potential audience.</blockquote>