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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Campbell" data-source="post: 8303657" data-attributes="member: 16586">What point are you making here? Are we doing the pissing contest thing?I don't understand this desire people seem to have to treat RPGs as a zero sum thing or try to make comparative claims of quality when it's obvious each game has its own strengths and weaknesses it brings to the table. Why the need to knock down other games and the hobbyists that enjoy them?No one has to like or play any game they have no interest in. That does not mean that they should make broad claims about the relative quality of other games, how difficult they are to learn, how much commitment they require, how narrow they are, and a whole host of inflammatory rhetoric being launched at other games broadly. If people want to get into specific criticism I will be glad to hear them out, but this sort of elitism makes being part of this community difficult for people like me who are fans of the overall genre of games.I like D&D. I have 3 official versions of it on my shelf. Several games like The Nightmares Underneath, Pathfinder Second Edition and Electric Bastionland that are direct descendants of it. I play in a biweekly 5e game that's been going for 3 years now. I prefer running other games, including other descendants of D&D, but I absolutely enjoy playing it.I say all this because there seems to be a bizarre need for many in the broader D&D community and particularly on this site to put broad sections of our overall hobby in boxes so they don't have to deal with them cognitively. To render them utterly irrelevant and deny they possess any value not contained within the sacred texts of D&D. It's dismissive, rude, and elitist. It's also entirely unnecessary. You can like what you like without shame. There's no need to tear other parts of the hobby down in order to justify your love for D&D. You can just love D&D. I do. I'm just polyamorous when it comes to RPGs.</blockquote>

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