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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8304002" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>They aren't any sort of pike square on either side. There aren't any pikes and there isn't a meaningful square, a key feature of which is that it was square. And civilians would not by the nature of things be using a weapon that required training and discipline to maneuver and not get in everyone's way. The "pikes" are no higher than the musket and bayonet combination on the other side meaning they certainly aren't pikes, and that's not a square.</p><p></p><p>No, not everyone had muskets. But even fewer people had pikes. And what Gustavus Adolphus mostly shortened was the depth of his formations, making them more maneuverable and because he realised the muskets were winning the fights.</p><p></p><p>It was only useful because they forgot the pikes. And ignored the squares. Narrow streets are the very last place you want to be carrying pikes. Meanwhile a mix of agricultural implements and spears that aren't at least twice your height and anything up to five times your height are much easier to move. (The normal length expected for a pike was between 3m and 7.5m). And while pike squares are close formations not all close formations are squares. Close formations on the other hand have been used by ... just about everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8304002, member: 87792"] They aren't any sort of pike square on either side. There aren't any pikes and there isn't a meaningful square, a key feature of which is that it was square. And civilians would not by the nature of things be using a weapon that required training and discipline to maneuver and not get in everyone's way. The "pikes" are no higher than the musket and bayonet combination on the other side meaning they certainly aren't pikes, and that's not a square. No, not everyone had muskets. But even fewer people had pikes. And what Gustavus Adolphus mostly shortened was the depth of his formations, making them more maneuverable and because he realised the muskets were winning the fights. It was only useful because they forgot the pikes. And ignored the squares. Narrow streets are the very last place you want to be carrying pikes. Meanwhile a mix of agricultural implements and spears that aren't at least twice your height and anything up to five times your height are much easier to move. (The normal length expected for a pike was between 3m and 7.5m). And while pike squares are close formations not all close formations are squares. Close formations on the other hand have been used by ... just about everyone. [/QUOTE]
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