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<blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 8307221" data-attributes="member: 6696971"><p>I mean…I doubt it. Go ask that Twitter person that was quoted. But is it really that controversial? </p><p></p><p>If you’re hiring Zaks and Pundit to be internal consultants vs (say) Luke Crane and Vincent Baker? </p><p></p><p>Odds are good you’ve got a pretty concrete vision for your game!</p><p></p><p>If your lead designer is talking about Warlords shouting arms back on? That’s a pretty strong endorsement of one of the bigger edition war epithets!</p><p></p><p>And we knew they were working on an iteration beyond (perhaps 2 iterations) the materials we were being given access to.</p><p></p><p>And the surveys were what the surveys were. ROBUST funneling toward nostalgia and tradition in both their questions and the possible answers to those questions.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It’s a pretty straight forward deal. I don’t even see how this is even controversial. It’s a brilliant (but probably should have been predictable) move by WotC given the clustereff around 4e’s lack of community engagement over its design (and the fallout that came from that).</p><p></p><p></p><p>My guess is that the vast, overwhelming majority (a one would expect) of the design work was the exclusive property of the internal design and playtest groups (again, who were one or more iterations beyond us at any given time).</p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Wait…do people actually think that their survey feedback moved actual substantial units in the final 5e product (beyond aesthetics and naming conventions)? Is that a widely held belief?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Manbearcat, post: 8307221, member: 6696971"] I mean…I doubt it. Go ask that Twitter person that was quoted. But is it really that controversial? If you’re hiring Zaks and Pundit to be internal consultants vs (say) Luke Crane and Vincent Baker? Odds are good you’ve got a pretty concrete vision for your game! If your lead designer is talking about Warlords shouting arms back on? That’s a pretty strong endorsement of one of the bigger edition war epithets! And we knew they were working on an iteration beyond (perhaps 2 iterations) the materials we were being given access to. And the surveys were what the surveys were. ROBUST funneling toward nostalgia and tradition in both their questions and the possible answers to those questions. It’s a pretty straight forward deal. I don’t even see how this is even controversial. It’s a brilliant (but probably should have been predictable) move by WotC given the clustereff around 4e’s lack of community engagement over its design (and the fallout that came from that). My guess is that the vast, overwhelming majority (a one would expect) of the design work was the exclusive property of the internal design and playtest groups (again, who were one or more iterations beyond us at any given time). Wait…do people actually think that their survey feedback moved actual substantial units in the final 5e product (beyond aesthetics and naming conventions)? Is that a widely held belief? [/QUOTE]
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