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<blockquote data-quote="twjensen" data-source="post: 144715" data-attributes="member: 3124">SRDFrom the SRD:A saving throw roll is: d20 + Base save bonus + other modifiers due to equipment, active effects, environment, circumstance, etc. + ability modifier vs. DC of Save The Saving Throw succeeds if the total of the die roll plus modifiers equals or exceeds the DC.*******************That's it.&nbsp; It goes on to talk about the three different kinds of saves and what they save against.&nbsp; 1 has been failure and 20 success on saves for so long in D&amp;D that I figure it's pretty dang official.&nbsp; OTOH, apparently the door is open in 3e for saves to not auto-fail.1 fails on attack, 20 hits on attack is still in there though. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="twjensen, post: 144715, member: 3124"] [b]SRD[/b] From the SRD: A saving throw roll is: d20 + Base save bonus + other modifiers due to equipment, active effects, environment, circumstance, etc. + ability modifier vs. DC of Save The Saving Throw succeeds if the total of the die roll plus modifiers equals or exceeds the DC. ******************* That's it. It goes on to talk about the three different kinds of saves and what they save against. 1 has been failure and 20 success on saves for so long in D&D that I figure it's pretty dang official. OTOH, apparently the door is open in 3e for saves to not auto-fail. 1 fails on attack, 20 hits on attack is still in there though. :D [/QUOTE]

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