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Message: <blockquote data-quote="anon" data-source="post: 2488321" data-attributes="member: 3727">I'm with Coredump on this one.CDG in the situation as first described was indeed EVIL.CDG in the clarified situation (12 opponents, long fight, etc..) is much more ambiguous because there is an element of self-defense to it.  But, even a neutral character, IMHO, ought look for a less lethal was to take the sleeper out of the battle (ie tie him up, steal his weapons, etc.).There have been many comments which describe in lovely detail other imagined evil acts.  These are brought up, I presume, to try to make the CDG seem less evil.  But the comparisons are largely irrelevant.  The choice wasn't between a CDG and another more evil act.  The choice was between a CDG and doing either nothing or doing something appropriate towards a helpless opponent.  In this light the CDG was evil.The comments attempting to show that the mage attempting the CDG and mace-weilding cleric (for example) are doing the same thing only at different speeds are also, IMO, off track.  The fundamental difference is the opponent's status.  The cleric's opponent has the ability to defend, to surrender, to flee, and furthermore is actively attempting to hurt the cleric and the cleric's friends.  These two factors inherently change the nature of the action, from justifiable self-defence to an EVIL act.</blockquote>