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<blockquote data-quote="DumMetlHed" data-source="post: 1812087" data-attributes="member: 25294"><p>I would have to agree with Elder-Basilisk about the whole deal with the devil and church of Nerull is an evil act. By allowing the church to move out the other good deities and building on the land the PC is basically saying that Nerull is the new state religion. By doing this it ties the hands of good PCs like the cleric of Pelor because they would probably try to overthrow the church and would now be trying to overthrow a religion backed by the government. </p><p></p><p>I also don't feel the argument that it is for the greater good therefore not evil I don't feel is valid. For one you are not only allowing a church that is known by the PC to be the start of the plague in his city to exist within it, but he is saying even though you did a bad bad thing here is a big piece of land and no other opposition from good churches in the city. Any good character that bargains with and allows an organization that unleashes a plague on an entire city should pretty much shift on the spot to an evil alignment.</p><p></p><p>The one thing that I don't get though is how Nerull got so much influence so quickly. Anyone should be able to tell that the church and the majority of its members are evil even if the evil acts are not committed out in the open for everyone to see. While some people may be good at hiding how they really are I can't imagine a whole church of evil clerics and members being able to not come off as evil. I'm sure that everyone has been walking somewhere and seen someone that gives you a bad feeling. You may not know the person and have never seen them before but you know something is just not right. If a town has a whole group of people that are by nature evil I can't imagine that the people of the city just ignore that because of some healing. I can see maybe going to get healing from them because it is currently the only option, but I would think it would be with suspicion not open arms.</p><p></p><p>Anyway sorry for the tangent… the moral of the story is… </p><p>(In the voice of Dustin Hoffman from rainman) definitely evil, yeah definitely evil, definitely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DumMetlHed, post: 1812087, member: 25294"] I would have to agree with Elder-Basilisk about the whole deal with the devil and church of Nerull is an evil act. By allowing the church to move out the other good deities and building on the land the PC is basically saying that Nerull is the new state religion. By doing this it ties the hands of good PCs like the cleric of Pelor because they would probably try to overthrow the church and would now be trying to overthrow a religion backed by the government. I also don't feel the argument that it is for the greater good therefore not evil I don't feel is valid. For one you are not only allowing a church that is known by the PC to be the start of the plague in his city to exist within it, but he is saying even though you did a bad bad thing here is a big piece of land and no other opposition from good churches in the city. Any good character that bargains with and allows an organization that unleashes a plague on an entire city should pretty much shift on the spot to an evil alignment. The one thing that I don't get though is how Nerull got so much influence so quickly. Anyone should be able to tell that the church and the majority of its members are evil even if the evil acts are not committed out in the open for everyone to see. While some people may be good at hiding how they really are I can't imagine a whole church of evil clerics and members being able to not come off as evil. I'm sure that everyone has been walking somewhere and seen someone that gives you a bad feeling. You may not know the person and have never seen them before but you know something is just not right. If a town has a whole group of people that are by nature evil I can't imagine that the people of the city just ignore that because of some healing. I can see maybe going to get healing from them because it is currently the only option, but I would think it would be with suspicion not open arms. Anyway sorry for the tangent… the moral of the story is… (In the voice of Dustin Hoffman from rainman) definitely evil, yeah definitely evil, definitely. [/QUOTE]
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