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Message: <blockquote data-quote="mattcolville" data-source="post: 5052295" data-attributes="member: 1300">That seems spurious to me, no one is suggesting that if you are stunned you are also dazed. But people *are* suggesting that if you are dying you are also bloodied. In fact, the point of this thread is that many people take for granted that a dying character is also a bloodied character.In which case, the bit you quoted would be redundant. All dying characters would also all without exception be bloodied characters. We don't have powers that say "One ally or creature." All allies are always also creatures.The fact that there are powers that affect bloodied or dying creatures implies to me that they are discrete states and that you cannot be both.</blockquote>