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is a Fighter/cleric etc less powerful using a shield
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<blockquote data-quote="Helldritch" data-source="post: 6903744" data-attributes="member: 6855114"><p>Ok, let's have some fun with a real example of where it could lead us to.</p><p>Meet Oswald, a 10th level champion with 2 levels of paladin.</p><p>Fighting styles: defense, dueling and two weapon fighting.</p><p>Feats: shield master (taken as human), tavern brawler and dual wielder). </p><p>Oswald owns a +1 plate, +1 shield.</p><p>His armor class is now 24. He can raise it to 26 with shield of faith. </p><p>He does not have lost in attack numbers, nor did he lost a iota in defense capability. Give him an amulet of protection or a ring and he becomes close to an AC of 28 at the cost of a single 1st level spell. Add in a protection spell from the cleric and a haste spell and our little Oswald is almost impossible to hit for creatures of his level.</p><p></p><p>The +1 plate might be hard to come by but not the shield. LMoP even have gauntlets of ogre's strength to make sure that Oswald dont lose much on dmg output.</p><p>Is it an extreeme case? I don't think so. 3 to 5 magic items at this level is not that rare in campaings.</p><p></p><p>With that in mind, I really think that the RAI is that fighting styles don't stack and that I am right about shield. But it's your game too. You can do whatever you want with it.</p><p></p><p>As WarpedAcorn pointed out, the tweet from Crawford tends to prove my point (at least where RAI is concerned ).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Helldritch, post: 6903744, member: 6855114"] Ok, let's have some fun with a real example of where it could lead us to. Meet Oswald, a 10th level champion with 2 levels of paladin. Fighting styles: defense, dueling and two weapon fighting. Feats: shield master (taken as human), tavern brawler and dual wielder). Oswald owns a +1 plate, +1 shield. His armor class is now 24. He can raise it to 26 with shield of faith. He does not have lost in attack numbers, nor did he lost a iota in defense capability. Give him an amulet of protection or a ring and he becomes close to an AC of 28 at the cost of a single 1st level spell. Add in a protection spell from the cleric and a haste spell and our little Oswald is almost impossible to hit for creatures of his level. The +1 plate might be hard to come by but not the shield. LMoP even have gauntlets of ogre's strength to make sure that Oswald dont lose much on dmg output. Is it an extreeme case? I don't think so. 3 to 5 magic items at this level is not that rare in campaings. With that in mind, I really think that the RAI is that fighting styles don't stack and that I am right about shield. But it's your game too. You can do whatever you want with it. As WarpedAcorn pointed out, the tweet from Crawford tends to prove my point (at least where RAI is concerned ). [/QUOTE]
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