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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6903959" data-attributes="member: 6788736">And TBH, I reckon that was a snap judgement than based on any mechnical considerations.For a TWF/ Shield build you need 2 feats (Dual weilder as the shield isnt light, and Tavern brawler for proficiency) and 1 Fighting style (TWF). Shield master, and protection style are also nice but not must haves. Thats a ridiculously heavy character investment. For most PCs that doesnt come online till 8th level (Fighters at 6th level).Lets compare them to a different direction: 2 feats (GWM and PA master) and 1 Fighting style (Defence). Assumes Prof +2 and Str 16.TWF/ TB/ DW + Sword and board:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+3 AC (Shield and DW)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2 attacks (action and bonus action): Sword 1d8+3 and Shield 1d4+3, both at +5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Can draw two weapons at once</li> </ul>PAM/ GWM/ Defence + Halberd<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">+1 AC (defence)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2 attacks (action and bonus action) Halberd 1d10+3 and haft 1d4+3, both at +5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reaction attack for entering reach 1d10+3 at +5</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cleave option;</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Power attack -5/+10 option.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Reach</li> </ul>As you can see, for the same heavy character investment (2 feats + 1 F/S) the S+B option is no better than the Pole arm option. The S+B option has an AC 2 points higher, but deals less DPR, lacks reaction attacks, reach, cleave and power attack. It's defensively better, but offensively much worse.There is no mechanical reason not to allow it in a game.From a simulationist perspective it's fine as well (smashing foes with your shield is a thing), and it actually gives S+B fighters (the most historically common way warriors went into battle in any event) a leveller against the very popular GWM and PAM styles.I think you'd be mad to disallow it personally. I can see zero reason for it, other than 'fighters cant have nice things'.</blockquote>

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