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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5203336" data-attributes="member: 71571">Not if the two class features stack!I was going to go into character builder to see how it handles it, but then I remembered that character builder does not actually handle the off-hand trait correctly to start, never has, and probably never will.&nbsp; So whatever it does is more likely wrong than right, don't do that.Stupid Character Builder.------------------You cannot do it with the Ranger version.&nbsp; The reason is that it only allows the use in your off-hand as if it had the off-hand property.&nbsp; That means that, for the purposes of using it in the off-hand, it does have the property, but for other purposes (such as Tempest Technique) it does not.However, the Barbarian's Whirling Slayer DOES work, because it 'treats it as an off-hand weapon' and is non-specific.So in the case of the Barbarian, a Fighter could get their +1 to hit and +2 damage with the bastard sword they're holding in their off hand.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5203336, member: 71571"] Not if the two class features stack! I was going to go into character builder to see how it handles it, but then I remembered that character builder does not actually handle the off-hand trait correctly to start, never has, and probably never will. So whatever it does is more likely wrong than right, don't do that. Stupid Character Builder. ------------------ You cannot do it with the Ranger version. The reason is that it only allows the use in your off-hand as if it had the off-hand property. That means that, for the purposes of using it in the off-hand, it does have the property, but for other purposes (such as Tempest Technique) it does not. However, the Barbarian's Whirling Slayer DOES work, because it 'treats it as an off-hand weapon' and is non-specific. So in the case of the Barbarian, a Fighter could get their +1 to hit and +2 damage with the bastard sword they're holding in their off hand. [/QUOTE]

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