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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6921022" data-attributes="member: 92511">Well, sure...For starters, as I said in the original post, this is about designing a cleric class for a homebrew system, not 5e. So, comparisons to the PHB paladin may be interesting, but would not be in direct competition...since this is not about playing 5e.I think the primary differences, would be as follows:1. As a Priest category class, versus a Warrior category class, the clerics will be limited (at least as default) to Light and Medium armors, Shields, and a limited selection of weapons. Paladins in general, and definitely the ones in the 5e PHB -even when such things would be introduced into the system (which I am also debating.. Paladins would not be presented as a class in the "basic/starter" material)- do not have those limitations.2. It seems a good amount the Paladin spell list space is taken up with simply giving them different sorts of Smite attacks or other combat relevant abilities. A cleric's spell list -whenever it is implemented- would be a bit more broadly useful/utilitarian both in and outside of combat.3. A Paladin's Channeling ability, though certainly more diverse in 5e than it has been, is still somewhat limited by their Oath. Now, what I'm talking about would include limited/individualized channel powers depending on deity, but that's a bit more granular and setting-specific than the PHB's Oaths.4. Also a "World of Orea RPG" feature, as the default/poster child class of the "Priest" class group, they also begin with 8 + Con. hp and receive a d8 HD for each level after. Paladins, naturally, in the PHB -and, presumably it would be a Warrior class in WoOrpg- would start with 12 + Con. HP and receive a d12 HD. So that's another, perhaps obvious, distinction.It is an interesting comparison, however. Between "how's it different than a warlock?" and "how's it different than a paladin?", (both legitimate questions!) it does rather beg the question if a "cleric" is necessary as a class at all?My old school origins and game sensibility (BECM-1e-2e-skipped through to 5e), of course, say that it is. If things [abilities, flavor, etc...] overlap or step on toes, then it is for the Warlock and Paladin to change/justify their existence as different than the Cleric, not the other way around. But that's me, where I look/come at it from.</blockquote>

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