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<blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2588470" data-attributes="member: 12037">Ugh. I have to fully reccomend against trying to force a player to take skills/feats/etc that he doesn't want in order to see if he is powergaming. &quot;Hey, why don't you make your fighter take Bluff? No? Powergamer!!&quot;This is one step above not letting someone take Sorcerer later in life. Which is also a bad houserule. &quot;Sorry, you're either born with sorcerous powers or you can never have it. No manifesting the ability later in life.&quot;My take on the situation: it's just two classes. Nobody ever said a Ninja has to be a &quot;Ninja.&quot; A rogue can be a ninja and a ninja can be a guy who trains to focus his power within. Which could make an awesome combo with barbarian, since that is also bringing out the rage within. He becomes a very interesting character that can call out two, fairly dissimilar, powers. I think its a great concept.And, I wouldn't be opposed to those who would rule that you can't rage and ki at the same time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ThirdWizard, post: 2588470, member: 12037"] Ugh. I have to fully reccomend against trying to force a player to take skills/feats/etc that he doesn't want in order to see if he is powergaming. "Hey, why don't you make your fighter take Bluff? No? Powergamer!!" This is one step above not letting someone take Sorcerer later in life. Which is also a bad houserule. "Sorry, you're either born with sorcerous powers or you can never have it. No manifesting the ability later in life." My take on the situation: it's just two classes. Nobody ever said a Ninja has to be a "Ninja." A rogue can be a ninja and a ninja can be a guy who trains to focus his power within. Which could make an awesome combo with barbarian, since that is also bringing out the rage within. He becomes a very interesting character that can call out two, fairly dissimilar, powers. I think its a great concept. And, I wouldn't be opposed to those who would rule that you can't rage and ki at the same time. [/QUOTE]

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