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Is a Ranger still part of a group while scouting?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 7552744" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Not generally. Scouting ahead will usually split the party. Read the "Splitting the Party" sidebar in the "Activity While Travelling" section. If the ranger is moving at a different pace than the rest of the party, s/he definitely forms his/her own group. On the other hand, I could see a marching order with the ranger in the front rank some distance from the rest of the party making sense, so it's really up to your DM.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Again, I think the question is whether you've split the party and what matters is what makes sense to your DM/group. The litmus test I would personally apply is whether the ranger and the rest of the party are moving at the same travel pace for the hour in question. If not, then the party has split. If they are and the ranger is using stealth (i.e. the entire party is travelling at a slow pace), they may not be aware of the ranger's exact location but can rely on the understanding that s/he is a certain distance ahead of them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not sure what ability you mean. If the ranger is alone, s/he can sneak at a normal pace, but if the group is tagging along, stealth requires a slow pace. The distance ahead the ranger would need to be for the group not to spoil his/her attempt to be sneaky, however, depends on sighting and audible distances for the area in which the monster is encountered. In a forest, the ranger could usually get within around 90 feet of the monster without having to come out into the open, but under some circumstances could get as close as 20 feet. As long as the rest of the group is also sneaking (which entails moving at a slow pace) and stays more than 40 feet behind the ranger (although under some circumstances they could be closer), any quiet noises they make won't be heard by a monster another 20 feet ahead of the ranger, for example.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Moving stealthily has no effect on character speed, which is used when resolving events on a turn-by-turn scale (combat). Outside of combat, events are resolved on a scale of minutes, hours, or days, in which case moving stealthily requires using a slow pace, which is the same for all characters. The benefits to the group from Natural Explorer of moving through difficult terrain and not getting lost are conferred when resolving travel on a scale of hours or greater.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 7552744, member: 6787503"] Not generally. Scouting ahead will usually split the party. Read the "Splitting the Party" sidebar in the "Activity While Travelling" section. If the ranger is moving at a different pace than the rest of the party, s/he definitely forms his/her own group. On the other hand, I could see a marching order with the ranger in the front rank some distance from the rest of the party making sense, so it's really up to your DM. Again, I think the question is whether you've split the party and what matters is what makes sense to your DM/group. The litmus test I would personally apply is whether the ranger and the rest of the party are moving at the same travel pace for the hour in question. If not, then the party has split. If they are and the ranger is using stealth (i.e. the entire party is travelling at a slow pace), they may not be aware of the ranger's exact location but can rely on the understanding that s/he is a certain distance ahead of them. I'm not sure what ability you mean. If the ranger is alone, s/he can sneak at a normal pace, but if the group is tagging along, stealth requires a slow pace. The distance ahead the ranger would need to be for the group not to spoil his/her attempt to be sneaky, however, depends on sighting and audible distances for the area in which the monster is encountered. In a forest, the ranger could usually get within around 90 feet of the monster without having to come out into the open, but under some circumstances could get as close as 20 feet. As long as the rest of the group is also sneaking (which entails moving at a slow pace) and stays more than 40 feet behind the ranger (although under some circumstances they could be closer), any quiet noises they make won't be heard by a monster another 20 feet ahead of the ranger, for example. Moving stealthily has no effect on character speed, which is used when resolving events on a turn-by-turn scale (combat). Outside of combat, events are resolved on a scale of minutes, hours, or days, in which case moving stealthily requires using a slow pace, which is the same for all characters. The benefits to the group from Natural Explorer of moving through difficult terrain and not getting lost are conferred when resolving travel on a scale of hours or greater. [/QUOTE]
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