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<blockquote data-quote="bret" data-source="post: 647241" data-attributes="member: 713">I'm sorry. I should have stated that in my experience mages don't like spells that shut off all magic. Of course I can't point to anything in the rules that say mages like or dislike any particular spell. I can only go by my experiences.As for a 12th level mage being in debt (need that level to forge a ring), although it is possible for this to happen there are so many other ways to make money that I have my doubts someone crafty enough to make it to that level would get into such a situation.I'll stand by my original statement, that I would never allow it.As for if it is legal, that depends on if you are the GM or not. If you are the GM, then you can create any magical item you wish. You've got lots of stuff in the DMG and Tome &amp; Blood that will help you judge how much such an item should cost and what feats would be required. It should certainly make mages and sorcerers rare in your campaign, as it now becomes much easier to hunt them down and kill them all.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bret, post: 647241, member: 713"] I'm sorry. I should have stated that in my experience mages don't like spells that shut off all magic. Of course I can't point to anything in the rules that say mages like or dislike any particular spell. I can only go by my experiences. As for a 12th level mage being in debt (need that level to forge a ring), although it is possible for this to happen there are so many other ways to make money that I have my doubts someone crafty enough to make it to that level would get into such a situation. I'll stand by my original statement, that I would never allow it. As for if it is legal, that depends on if you are the GM or not. If you are the GM, then you can create any magical item you wish. You've got lots of stuff in the DMG and Tome & Blood that will help you judge how much such an item should cost and what feats would be required. It should certainly make mages and sorcerers rare in your campaign, as it now becomes much easier to hunt them down and kill them all. [/QUOTE]

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