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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 5023004" data-attributes="member: 1956">IMHO the one who need the higher primal stats are Leaders, especially str based ones. As a leader, they must hit often to give various advantages to their comrades. And str leaders must aim for AC with melee weapons. Their hit-rate affects much on the entire party.Other characters, depending on builds, can be ok with 16-18 primal stats. You can make efficient characters with non-maximized primal stats if you can mainly aim for Ref or Will, or if you can inflict damages without making attack rolls (say, rain of steel).Particularly, Avenger could be a class which can do well with lower main stat, as the class has significantly high to-hit rate thanks to the class power.Racial powers, class features, expected task in the party, etc., will also do matter.I once played a Elven Warden/Polearm Master with starting Str of 16. As he was using glaive, his attack bonus is -3 lower than that of warriors who started with Str 20 and using +3 proficiency bonus weapon.Still, he was a very efficient combatant within the party. He was not the main damage dealer in the party. He was a kind of melee controller. Thanks to elven accuracy racial power, he could almost always hit at least once per encounter in critical moment (say, when using encounter or daily power which moves a main villain a lot and then knocks down). Thanks to blade opportunist feat, his attack bonus was not so bad when making Opportunity Attacks. It helped as he was making a lot of OAs thanks to Polearm Gamble. And, as the second defender in the party, he was often expected not to mark high AC soldiers but to go on enemy artilleries and controllers. He was very good at it because he could move really fast (warden powers which let him shift multiple squares, speed of 7, ignore difficult terrain when shifting)</blockquote>

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