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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 5023371" data-attributes="member: 6562">Having an 18 (post-racial) in your primary attack stat isn't a necessity, but it should be your default assumption. If you can justify higher or lower (16 or 20), then you should feel good about taking something other than an 18.Dwarf Fighter is a great example where a 16 (post-racial) Str works fine. Why does it work fine? Three synergistic reasons: <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> +2 Wisdom: this means your Opportunity Attacks work just as well as the guy with the 18 Strength.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Second Wind as a Minor action (and +2 Con): you effectively gain one extra Standard action per combat, so missing once per combat isn't that terrible for you, paired with...</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul"> Reliable daily powers: this is the 2nd thing which makes missing non-terrible for you.</li> </ul>Reasons for starting with a 20 should include looking over your class's Feat list and figuring out how many of those you can do without -- putting an 18 (pre-racial) in one stat will usually disqualify you from a large number of potentially nice feats.- - -Basically, view the 18 (post-racial) as a good guideline. If you don't want to think too hard about optimization, just make sure you have an 18 in your primary attack stat, and you will be mostly fine. If you do want to optimize your dude, the 18 is merely the place you start working: see if you can do better than that default by taking a 16 or a 20.Cheers, -- N</blockquote>

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