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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5023572" data-attributes="member: 82106">All I can say is the dwarf greatweapon fighter in the main game I'm running now started with a 16 STR and the character works great. He's got enough WIS to make his OAs land pretty accurately and Potent Challenge adds a large chunk of damage to any CC attacks he makes. Overall he's pretty sticky. I haven't noticed that he has any problems hitting in general. Also by using Cleave and Reaping Strike as at-wills and taking Brute Strike as a level 1 daily he's not loosing so much by missing once in a while. Some people might claim the character is sub-optimal with that STR but its rare for monsters to get past him and with his huge CON he's only gone down in battle a few times. The player is certainly boosting STR at every stat boost and I suppose this choice might prove less desirable at really high levels, but up to the top of heroic tier I can say with total assurance that a properly designed fighter is perfectly effective at 16 STR.Practically speaking there are any number of builds for which a 16 prime req after mods is a good and even optimal choice. Certain wizard builds can easily get away with 16 INT for instance. There may even be a few very specific builds that can get by with a 14, though I suspect it probably isn't the wisest choice and is likely to be problematic at higher tiers.</blockquote>