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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nai_Calus" data-source="post: 5030910" data-attributes="member: 79670">Yeah there's your example, you're screwing over the team if you're not optimizing. k.I'm not talking about an elf taking eladrin feats, I'm using a half-elf being houseruled as half-eladrin and taking eladrin feats as an example of reflavoring using different mechanics than the default that I find acceptable. I can't find a DM that will let me do *that*, so I have a half-'elf' PC that makes no sense because he has options open to him from a race he isn't related to. And that's something that just plain doesn't exist and *has* to be houseruled/homebrewed into existence. I cannot even begin to *imagine* a DM letting me get away with the equivalent of 'lol I want to RP this thing that exists but lulz I want to be a munchkin and avoid all the mechanical flaws involved in it, can I say I'm it but be something else entirely? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />' If I were DMing and a player tried that with me I'd laugh in their face and then watch every single thing they ever did with their characters like a hawk since my expectation would be that they're a rampant powergamer, and I like casual RP-heavy games where combat is that thing you do when you have to because the monsters are mindless or the party totally screwed up negotiations.I'm also not an optimizer and I don't like meatgrinder campaigns where you have to be optimized to the hilt or you're going to die in five seconds. I'd take Linguist if the character was one who would speak a bunch of languages. Combat is my least favourite part of D&D. I build my characters. I make sure they're not completely crappy and analyze which powers I'm taking. But I don't sit there thinking 'well what kind of killer build can I make that will be a horrific combat machine?'. I suppose that screws over the party if the rest of them are powergamers gushing about their awesome 'build' instead of how cool their character's backstory is or the DM is incapable of tailoring encounters to the party because he just wants his deathtraps, but that's OK, I don't want to be in those kinds of campaigns anyway.Besides, as I've said before. My dice luck is terrible. I routinely miss by 4 or more, and usually hit by 4 or more as well on the occasions I do. Yeah I'm so crippled by that -1 vs having an 18 I'll have if I make an Eladrin cleric. :| (I own a good 80something d20s. You'd think one of them would be capable of routinely rolling more than a 10. You'd be wrong. No, they're not 0-9 twice.)And obviously there are many people who do think that 'you must have an 18/19/20 or you suck', or this thread wouldn't even be here in the first place and I wouldn't be annoyed by the mindset I've encountered too damned many times. Ironically nobody ever complains that oh god my Swordmage sucks because he only has 14 CON your Aegis is terrible you're screwing us over. But I guess it's all about the glorious to-hit/damage.</blockquote>

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