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<blockquote data-quote="Kobold Stew" data-source="post: 6314560" data-attributes="member: 23484"><p>There are a couple of issues bundled into this question, and it's maybe helpful to pull them out. </p><p></p><p>1. The existence of characters called "paladins" who are not LG.</p><p>2. Alignment restrictions on any class.</p><p>3. The legacy of Paladins being stripped of their powers if they become non-LG (or commit a single evil act, or whatever). </p><p></p><p>1. has been answered for me through the oaths. The oaths do imply some alignment associations, and so it is now a matter of labelling ("Devoted Paladins are LG"; "Vengeance Paladins are N or LN"). I am satisfied with what 5e gives us.</p><p></p><p>2. is also not a problem for me. Just as Clerics must be within "one step" of their deity, some restrictions on alignment for certain classes (Paladin, Druid, Cleric, Monk) does not seem burdensome to me. Indeed, I'd even be happy if the wording were strengthened, from the play test's current "typically..." to a stipulation that you can't advance in the class if you fall outside of the stated parameters. But I wouldn't want to force that on others.</p><p></p><p>3. has been removed from the 5e we've seen, and rightly so. While I don't mind some behavioural curbs in a game that has alignment (as above), the legacy of power-stripping by DMs is unhealthy, and I'm pleased it's gone. </p><p></p><p>So I'm not unhappy about LG Paladins; I am happy that an LG-only option exists, and would have it strengthened, though not to the extent of replicating the DM excesses of the past.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kobold Stew, post: 6314560, member: 23484"] There are a couple of issues bundled into this question, and it's maybe helpful to pull them out. 1. The existence of characters called "paladins" who are not LG. 2. Alignment restrictions on any class. 3. The legacy of Paladins being stripped of their powers if they become non-LG (or commit a single evil act, or whatever). 1. has been answered for me through the oaths. The oaths do imply some alignment associations, and so it is now a matter of labelling ("Devoted Paladins are LG"; "Vengeance Paladins are N or LN"). I am satisfied with what 5e gives us. 2. is also not a problem for me. Just as Clerics must be within "one step" of their deity, some restrictions on alignment for certain classes (Paladin, Druid, Cleric, Monk) does not seem burdensome to me. Indeed, I'd even be happy if the wording were strengthened, from the play test's current "typically..." to a stipulation that you can't advance in the class if you fall outside of the stated parameters. But I wouldn't want to force that on others. 3. has been removed from the 5e we've seen, and rightly so. While I don't mind some behavioural curbs in a game that has alignment (as above), the legacy of power-stripping by DMs is unhealthy, and I'm pleased it's gone. So I'm not unhappy about LG Paladins; I am happy that an LG-only option exists, and would have it strengthened, though not to the extent of replicating the DM excesses of the past. [/QUOTE]
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