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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6316222" data-attributes="member: 9037">The reason I believe that the DM should have the final say is simple they are the arbitrators, they run the world, they decide how the world views the PCs. Now I am not saying they should totally ignore the players opinions but if the players are not willing to abide by the DMs decisions then you have chaos at the table. Though two adults should be able to have a reasonable discussion about it. I am of the school that DMs do have the power to strip away PC abilities saying they don't is saying that a wizard can never lose their spellbook or that a DM can't build a world with wild or null magic areas because that can cause a player to lose some of their abilities.</blockquote>