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<blockquote data-quote="Giltonio_Santos" data-source="post: 6316334" data-attributes="member: 36874">[MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION], I believe you're not addressing what people around here believe is the real issue. It's a mechanical issue that connects to world-building in some way. Different from Joan, the wizard, it seems that the powers of John, the paladin are directly bestowed at him by a powerful entity, one that only give him powers as long as he live by certain standards, and one that is ultimately controlled by the DM*.That said, people want an answer to the question &quot;what happens when John fails to live by those standards?&quot;, and it seems that they don't believe &quot;nothing&quot; is a valid answer, much like they don't believe that it should be a valid answer to the question &quot;what happens to Joan when she loses her spellbook?&quot;. Honestly, outside the realms of the &quot;evil DM&quot;, I believe more wizards have lost access to their powers than paladins in the last 35 years.*From other posts, I know you enjoy a playing style that puts a lot of control over what happens in the world in the hands of the players. While I do enjoy some games that do that, I don't think it suits D&amp;D very well.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Giltonio_Santos, post: 6316334, member: 36874"] [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION], I believe you're not addressing what people around here believe is the real issue. It's a mechanical issue that connects to world-building in some way. Different from Joan, the wizard, it seems that the powers of John, the paladin are directly bestowed at him by a powerful entity, one that only give him powers as long as he live by certain standards, and one that is ultimately controlled by the DM*. That said, people want an answer to the question "what happens when John fails to live by those standards?", and it seems that they don't believe "nothing" is a valid answer, much like they don't believe that it should be a valid answer to the question "what happens to Joan when she loses her spellbook?". Honestly, outside the realms of the "evil DM", I believe more wizards have lost access to their powers than paladins in the last 35 years. [SIZE=1]*From other posts, I know you enjoy a playing style that puts a lot of control over what happens in the world in the hands of the players. While I do enjoy some games that do that, I don't think it suits D&D very well.[/SIZE] [/QUOTE]

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