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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6316855" data-attributes="member: 9037">That has not been my experience as a DM I have had a paladin in every campaign I have run that allowed the class, But I tend to run heroic campaigns and I have been told that I am a good DM for a player who wants to play a paladin because I don't set out to make them fall unless they want too. And I don't use no win scenarios there is always a way around anything. And I don't view lawful good as so black and white.Paladin is my favorite class but I will not play one with every DM I know or with certain players because of their limited rigid thinking of what lawful good is. I think rejecting them outright is not always the answer either what if someone really wants to  play a paladin I would be unhappy if I could never play one with a group because they had bad experiences with another player. I think there is a tendency to exaggerate some of this. I for example have issues with rogues and wish I could just do away with them because it seems to attract the lone wolf I steal from the party and get them in trouble in style player.  My roommate who DMs hates half orcs because she finds that for the most part it is another lone wolf player with a giant chip on their shoulder and caused more inter party issues than any paladin.</blockquote>