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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6317577" data-attributes="member: 9037">That was my point that putting in a moral dilemma about orc babies gives some excellent role playing choices for the party if they like that thing. Now what the DM did in question in this game should be taken with a grain of salt he was 13 years old. But with a mature group this can be a chance for some meaty role playing. Like I said I would never make a paladin fall over a situation like this. There would be more than one right answer. It is not easy to predict the way a player will go so a good DM should have more than one correct answer. Also what has happened in the game world so far should be taken into consideration. I have read DMs complain that the PCs kill every prisoner but digging more you find that the DM has used spared prisoners  to screw the PCs over do that enough you train the PCs to kill them as the best tactical way to play. On the other hand reward them for their mercy you will often see a different result. But there is a difference between a DM sticking their nose in and telling a player how to play and giving consequences because of the way players chose to play.  As for the situation Greg K described I look at it differently than you do. I don't see it so much as trying to control the way the player was playing but more guiding the play because it looked like the other PCs were going to die and the player playing the paladin was attempting to do something that had a very small chance of success based on what the DM saw as the player trying to protect his PC from getting killed.  I can understand why a DM might chose to use in game sticks to prevent this. I have seen players get really upset over their characters death when they feel it happened because another player was not pulling his weight. And it can have a lasting impact on the game. It really is a DM style some DMs who let the dice fall where they may and practice totally neutral style of DMing may find this wrong other DMs have a differnt style and try to aide the players.</blockquote>

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