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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 6323597" data-attributes="member: 18">Imo, your non-Arthurian examples strongly serve to prove my point. The punishments meted out are unreliable, arbitrary, and largely used against random people who follow the gods rather than against priests or the like. That is not what is being discussed at all. The only priest example you mention shows something that 99.999% of players would consider as ridiculous and bad DM'ing, and a god not worthy of following - it's arbitrary, deeply, fundamentally unjust (and indeed seems like it was meant to show what dicks the Greek gods were - I'm not sure any of them could make a G alignment, all legends considered, and few, if any, could make L - most are basically Neutral Evil in the "ultra-selfish" sense), and I don't believe it works well as an example, if you're arguing for codes being followed.With Moses, the punishment is ultra-extreme for the slightest disobeyal, but god is literally talking to him, which is not the case for normal Judaic priests. This is far more extreme and quite different to anything in any version of D&D I've come across.The Arthurian examples are interesting because they run counter to most D&D Paladin codes, which rarely include stuff like chastity (certainly in later editions), are less opposed to covetousness and so on, and tend to rather focus "being LG".So, again, I really think you're proving my point. The fair, warning-giving, clearly-outlined, no-ridiculous-requirements sets of guidelines you're giving out are not something representative of mythic or historical behaviour restrictions, which, as I said, and as your examples show, tend to be arbitrary, bizarre, unreliably enforced, and often unjust or even outright offensive. I'm not saying you can't use them or something. I'm saying you can't claim "Oh I'm drawing from myth/history!", because you're clearly not!</blockquote>

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