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Is Anyone Unhappy About Non-LG Paladins?
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<blockquote data-quote="Tequila Sunrise" data-source="post: 6331455" data-attributes="member: 40398"><p>Yes, yes, we all know that clerics are divine gishes. I even pointed this out using more words during my mistaken conversation with Xodis a few posts back. I guess "clerics study holy texts, paladins practice swordplay" isn't specific enough for the literal-minded, so I apologize.</p><p></p><p>We all know that clerics are divine gishes; as are paladins, in addition to whatever other archetypes are ascribed to them. Clearly, however, clerics lean more toward the castery side of gish while paladins lean more toward the fightery side. Just to invent some numbers for the sake of illustration, a cleric spends about 50% of his apprenticeship with holy texts and the other 50% on combat training. Meanwhile a paladin's apprenticeship is split about 90%-10%.</p><p></p><p>Can we agree on this, even if we're comparing clerics only with the traditional LG paladin? <em>Note:</em> I'm not asking you to agree to the specific percentages or anything, just the general idea of my comparison.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I gave Xodis the benefit of the doubt because he seems to be new here, but I'm sure that you've seen countless paladin threads in your time, and have gotten countless answers to the questions you're asking. My answers probably don't match every single response you've gotten during the various paladin threads, but neither are they unique. You've no doubt heard it all before.</p><p></p><p>So I'm not going to go around in circles with you on this; if you still <em>genuinely</em> don't understand why some of us like flexible paladins -- rather than just feigning ignorance for the sake of argument -- read <a href="http://4thmaster.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/why-flexibility-advocates-like-the-flexible-paladin/" target="_blank">this blog post</a>. The first bit, up until I start answering the bolded questions, encapsulates much of the reasoning behind my own personal opinion. It's not deep stuff; you don't need an advanced degree to understand it, at least intellectually. You may never grok my reasoning on an intuitive level, just as I'll never fundamentally grok your exclusionary attitude toward the paladin, but I'm fully confident that you can grasp it intellectually at least.</p><p></p><p>All it requires is that you step away from the traditional paladin archetype long enough to imagine yourself in my shoes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tequila Sunrise, post: 6331455, member: 40398"] Yes, yes, we all know that clerics are divine gishes. I even pointed this out using more words during my mistaken conversation with Xodis a few posts back. I guess "clerics study holy texts, paladins practice swordplay" isn't specific enough for the literal-minded, so I apologize. We all know that clerics are divine gishes; as are paladins, in addition to whatever other archetypes are ascribed to them. Clearly, however, clerics lean more toward the castery side of gish while paladins lean more toward the fightery side. Just to invent some numbers for the sake of illustration, a cleric spends about 50% of his apprenticeship with holy texts and the other 50% on combat training. Meanwhile a paladin's apprenticeship is split about 90%-10%. Can we agree on this, even if we're comparing clerics only with the traditional LG paladin? [I]Note:[/I] I'm not asking you to agree to the specific percentages or anything, just the general idea of my comparison. I gave Xodis the benefit of the doubt because he seems to be new here, but I'm sure that you've seen countless paladin threads in your time, and have gotten countless answers to the questions you're asking. My answers probably don't match every single response you've gotten during the various paladin threads, but neither are they unique. You've no doubt heard it all before. So I'm not going to go around in circles with you on this; if you still [I]genuinely[/I] don't understand why some of us like flexible paladins -- rather than just feigning ignorance for the sake of argument -- read [URL="http://4thmaster.wordpress.com/2014/06/17/why-flexibility-advocates-like-the-flexible-paladin/"]this blog post[/URL]. The first bit, up until I start answering the bolded questions, encapsulates much of the reasoning behind my own personal opinion. It's not deep stuff; you don't need an advanced degree to understand it, at least intellectually. You may never grok my reasoning on an intuitive level, just as I'll never fundamentally grok your exclusionary attitude toward the paladin, but I'm fully confident that you can grasp it intellectually at least. All it requires is that you step away from the traditional paladin archetype long enough to imagine yourself in my shoes. [/QUOTE]
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