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<blockquote data-quote="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost" data-source="post: 5124089" data-attributes="member: 4720"><p>I think you over-estimate the difficulty of most 5-man instances, especially now. Some of the endgame 5-mans in vanilla were slightly difficult. But since then non-heroic 5-mans are mostly trivial if your tank knows what he's doing. Heck, a lot of the heroics are barely more than that unless you're gunning for some of the more esoteric Achievements.</p><p></p><p>Heck, I recently logged back in with my paladin for the first time in months (still wearing Naxx gear), and ran the "new" 5-mans with guild mates who have been running Icecrown. They were firmly convinced we were screwed since both myself (tank) and the healer were massively undergeared in their estimation. They were running this place entirely with people 2-3 tiers of gear above us since even accumulating heroic badges is enough for that nowadays. We cleared the notorious zergfest in the third wing "cleaner than I've ever seen it done" according to two of them, though we did lose a mage because I slipped on picking up one hunter.</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't run a raid above Ulduar with my current gear, but a few weeks of 5-mans would give me two full tiers of gear. The treadmill has been very much obviated. If I had even a little time to devote regularly to the game and a willingness to PUG Naxx for badges, I could probably be back to running top end raids within 3 weeks.</p><p></p><p>They also increased the gold you get while leveling and such. Gold is never really an issue anymore.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jeremy Ackerman-Yost, post: 5124089, member: 4720"] I think you over-estimate the difficulty of most 5-man instances, especially now. Some of the endgame 5-mans in vanilla were slightly difficult. But since then non-heroic 5-mans are mostly trivial if your tank knows what he's doing. Heck, a lot of the heroics are barely more than that unless you're gunning for some of the more esoteric Achievements. Heck, I recently logged back in with my paladin for the first time in months (still wearing Naxx gear), and ran the "new" 5-mans with guild mates who have been running Icecrown. They were firmly convinced we were screwed since both myself (tank) and the healer were massively undergeared in their estimation. They were running this place entirely with people 2-3 tiers of gear above us since even accumulating heroic badges is enough for that nowadays. We cleared the notorious zergfest in the third wing "cleaner than I've ever seen it done" according to two of them, though we did lose a mage because I slipped on picking up one hunter. I wouldn't run a raid above Ulduar with my current gear, but a few weeks of 5-mans would give me two full tiers of gear. The treadmill has been very much obviated. If I had even a little time to devote regularly to the game and a willingness to PUG Naxx for badges, I could probably be back to running top end raids within 3 weeks. They also increased the gold you get while leveling and such. Gold is never really an issue anymore. [/QUOTE]
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