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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saeviomagy" data-source="post: 1275196" data-attributes="member: 5890">Is your DM a total moron? Hill giants have this neat little ability called "huck stuff at people who think that ranged combat is a good tactic". Entangling them doesn't stop that from working. They still slam you with 2d6+7 damage, a range of 120ft and an attack bonus of +8. (+6 with entangle).Ranged combat is still good against a hill giant, but not THAT good.Oh, and just for laughs try out ANY ranged combat character against a hill giant who doesn't throw rocks.His speed is only 30ft. Sit at 70ft, and back off if he charges at you. He'll die horribly.Of course you can just sit still, be totally immune to attacks, and not take damage until the caster gets bored.Or they could have just stayed still.How so? You need to dismiss it to go get them, at which point they're unharmed. You just broke the fight up a bit. Oh, and you've lost the utility of the AoE.No, it's save or wait for a while. It means that instead of fighting a CR 3 encounter, your players (thanks to judicious use of a second level spell) are up against two CR 1 encounters, each of which still use up resources. Against something like a hill giant, he just soaks the damage and hurls boulders into you.Alternately your players could have cast any number of other similar spells with the same effect. Burning hands for instance would probably kill half the goblins it hit. Hypnotism would take out (most likely) 2d4 of them. Sleep would take out 4. Hypnotic pattern would be taking out 2d4+(at least) 3 of them. Hell - fog cloud or obscuring mist will seperate them into individual cr 1/3 encounters.What part of total cover do you not understand?Fireball pellets will hit the total cover, and stop, then explode, stopping when they hit the total cover. IOW if you're in total cover, fireball doesn't hurt you.Alchemists fire will, likewise, strike the total cover and not your target.</blockquote>

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