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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shadowslayer" data-source="post: 3122370" data-attributes="member: 8400">Sorry, the haggling part comes from bad experiences I had with a couple of DMs who wouldn't shut up about "their world...their vision" and just run the damn game. I find settings to be a mostly overdone aspect of play anyway. In a nutshell though, my feeling is this: If I come to the game table to play D&D, than this (holds up PHB and points to it) is the game I'm here to play. Not someone else's version of it. Know what I mean? (and I say this without malice, and with complete awareness that I'm probably going against the popular response to this question.) I guess what I'm getting at is that any player going into a new game should be able to assume that the "PHB core" is the standard. I think that yes, that is a player's entitlement. If PHB stuff is changed or if certain parts are disallowed, then you're running a non-standard game of D&D. I don't imply any negative connotations to a non-standard game either...only that standard/non standard is something that should be pointed out to new players well ahead of time. Preferrably right on the sign-up board.But that's just me. Ultimately, the answer still lies with the particular group you're talking about.</blockquote>