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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7825563" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>It depends on the situation and how you count persuasion. </p><p></p><p>Charmed does not give you command, neither does Persuasion. </p><p></p><p>The DC 20 (friendly, great risk, DMG) is for convincing someone, not for commanding someone within a fight with a single order barked in six-second. Read the rest of the DMG social, where you hot the 20, it's not giving persuasion an instant command order capability.</p><p></p><p>Not saying it is inappropriate for an ettin to be agreeable with betraying the other guy, but while he mst trust the caster he doesn't trust everyone else one bit. </p><p></p><p>So, yo me, if the FM plays it as instant order and doesnt bring NPC traits into it, then yeah it can be potentially over the top. </p><p></p><p>Personally, I dont think it is. Not for a 4th level spell hitting a brother's weakness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7825563, member: 6919838"] It depends on the situation and how you count persuasion. Charmed does not give you command, neither does Persuasion. The DC 20 (friendly, great risk, DMG) is for convincing someone, not for commanding someone within a fight with a single order barked in six-second. Read the rest of the DMG social, where you hot the 20, it's not giving persuasion an instant command order capability. Not saying it is inappropriate for an ettin to be agreeable with betraying the other guy, but while he mst trust the caster he doesn't trust everyone else one bit. So, yo me, if the FM plays it as instant order and doesnt bring NPC traits into it, then yeah it can be potentially over the top. Personally, I dont think it is. Not for a 4th level spell hitting a brother's weakness. [/QUOTE]
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